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Hi all, you all have helped me before and need help now. I have a 60-gal tank from Petsmart with stand and 2 parrot cichlids. It is set up with sand and hardscaped. I had 2 aqueon quiet-flow filters that have not been able to keep the tank clean. My fish are growing well and each around 2-1/2 to 3 inches at present. I went to Petsmart and bought a Marineland C-360 canister filter but it will not fit inside my cabinet and I have hardwood floors as well as pets and am a little concerned about what should happen if this filter failed, which I have read of happening. My opening for inside my stand is only 14 inchest top to bottom. One of my filters is pulling but the other is not. Any advice appreciated as I am concerned about how long I can run with only one filter and also what are best options for replacement. I appreciate anyone reading this through.

Thanks much.

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Assuming your tank is 48 inches in length like my 50 gallon it should fit easily with these 2 hang on power filters. These filters have great reviews and they keep my water very clean. I only use the sponge and biomax. Every month i would squeeze out the sponge with tank water and rinse a little on the biomax. Then place them back on the filters. Once in a while i clean the filter container. Very easy to clean and not that expensive. And you dont need to change the filter media constantly unless it is necessary. I have been using my sponges and biomax for over a year. Just make sure you clean them. These filters are now owned by Fluval.

Assuming your tank is 48 inches in length like my 50 gallon it should fit easily with these 2 hang on power filters. These filters have great reviews and they keep my water very clean. I only use the sponge and biomax. Every month i would squeeze out the sponge with tank water and rinse a little on the biomax. Then place them back on the filters. Once in a while i clean the filter container. Very easy to clean and not that expensive. And you dont need to change the filter media constantly unless it is necessary. I have been using my sponges and biomax for over a year. Just make sure you clean them. These filters are now owned by Fluval.

Try amazon. If you only have 2 fish in your tank having one filter will be fine for now. Make sure you dont overfeed, and should do frequent water changes like 2 times a week until you have 2 good filters running at the same time. If you dont want to wait from buying online, i suggest checking petco stores. Prices from my experience at petco are cheaper than from petsmart. I hope you have a good test kit such as api to monitor your water parameters for ph, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate. This should give you some piece of mind when you know your water parameters are under control. I also recommend using prime as a water dechlorinator. When you use prime it will last up to 48 hrs in your tank keeping the ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate safe for your fish. After 48 hours you can use prime again and repeat the cycle. Make sure you dont over dose which can deplete the oxygen in your tank.

Thanks so much for the reply. Yes, I do have test kits and will order these filters from Amazon and do the water changes twice a week. These have rave reviews on Amazon when running aquariums with sand and most reviews say they are quiet. My tank is 48 inches long and my fisn are very happy for now. Hopefully, they will get here quickly. Thank you again for taking the time to reply. 

 

 

Amazon usually ships pretty fast. I have pool filter sand in my tank and have not gotten any problems with these filters.

I got the filters but the tank is too close to the wall for them to fit between the wall and the tank. To use them, I would have to move the tank out from the wall by about an inch or so.... I don't know how I would do that without draining it. What to do.... =(

 

This is also benefit as a large water change. You can use the tank water, put it in a bucket or container, suggest putting with aerator to move the water for oxygen, then put your fish there. It would not be safe moving the tank when full of water. I also suggest you use a python syhpon to add new water to your tank as well as for draining. Also better to have another person help you. Make sure you remove as many things as you can from the tank and stand before you attempt to move them. Before you make your final decision on how far you move the tank from the wall, make sure you have enough space to be able to remove the whole filters for cleaning. I space mine about 6 inches from the wall. And if something falls in the space you can have enough room to get it.

Hopefully your filters are up and running by now.

If I am reading your post right there should be no problem with the set-up staying clean. 2 small BP's in that big a tank with 2 filters it should be sparkling! If this tank was just set up there is always some murkiness for a few weeks until the good bacteria get going. BIGGEST mistake people make is feeding way too much. No filter can keep up with that. More than 1 filter isn't necessary.

If this is a 'new' tank that hasn't cycled yet (6-8 weeks) cut way down on feeding (not more than they can eat in 5 minutes, once a day) and let the filter 'mature' . There is a live bacterial culture you can get at Wal-Mart that adds the good bacteria and gets it's cycled quicker. It's called JUNGLE Start-zyme. Greatest 'instant start' going, and cheap.

I started a zillion tanks over the years and if you just don't feed a lot they will do great. I bought a complete starter kit from Aequeon with the filter included, using only 1, came home, set it up and added BP's the same size as yours plus a bunch of dither fish and it never clouded or had a problem cycling. I fed very lightly, added the Jungle starter bacteria and the fish spawned in the first 2 weeks. Even without bottled bacteria I've never had a start up issue if it's taken SLOWLY. Cloudy, murky water is almost always a result of too much food or fish for the current amount of bacteria. Think that is your problem. A balanced tank doesn't even depend on filters.

Hope this finds you and the BP's doing much better without buying a bunch of extra filteration.

For the last 2 and 1/2 months I added 2 rainbow cichlids and 2 boesemani rainbows. Because of the additional fishes I recently purchased an Eheim Pro 3 canister filter up to 65 gal. So far it is doing a great job. You may want to consider a canister filter down the road.

Well, first thank you very, very much for the responses. My filters are now working well. They do end up having a lot of slime on them very quickly. I think my problem may be overfeeding. I do have a lot of waste in the bottom of the tank which seems to add up quickly. I do have white sand which makes everything show up faster and actually need to add some more to the tank (can I do with fish in it?). The water is not crystal clear but a bit yellowish. The fish though are very healthy acting. This tank has been set up for about 6 months now so wonder if I need more bacteria? Anyway, thank you all again and any advice is much appreciated. 

okay, please make sure you are also cleaning the filters when needed. Use the tank water to squeeze out the waste from the sponges. And use the tank water to briefly rinse the bio media. You can clean 1 filter 1 week and the other another week to ensure you dont get ammonia spike. I suggest doing frequent large water change like at least 50% 2 times a week. And vacuun the waste from the sand. You clean the sand first in a bucket . Then slowing add to the tank while yiur fish are in it. Or put your fish in another bucket and add them when the sand is settled in your tank.

You may want to get some really good bio media for your filters. I havent got the chance to get these biohome media. This is the youtube video that explains this type of media which can get anaerobic inside of the media to help reduce nitrates. https://greatwaveeng.com is the US distrubutor link. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JFXJaRDfR1w&list=PLbMdSz_YcK9eIbVBeWT3hixuB...

I hope by now your tank has crystal clear water like mine. If you feed a lot like me 3 times a day, doing frequent large water change is a must. I do about 60% water change every 3-4 days. Even added a 3rd filter, a very nice Eheim canister 65 gallon. Scrubbing the inside glass rid of algae, and cleaning your filters will add to the rewarding crystal clear water.

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I hope by now your tank has crystal clear water like mine. If you feed a lot like me 3 times a day, doing frequent large water change is a must. I do about 60% water change every 3-4 days. Even added a 3rd filter, a very nice Eheim canister 65 gallon. Scrubbing the inside glass rid of algae, and cleaning your filters will add to the rewarding crystal clear water

When setting-up the canister for my 20-gal. the first time, I followed a suggestion on YouTube of using a special bio-media sold through here:

http://www.greatwaveeng.com

I also used just activated carbon & zeolyte crystals w/two pieces of 30-ppi sponge, and my ever-cloudy tank cleared-up in no-time. And after I moved everything + 5quarantined BPs into a 40-gal--post lengthy bio-start--I just used the canister setup the same way again... And never had a bit of cloudiness. 

Later, I was told I had overstocked the 40, and needed to remove some fish, cut-back on the feeding, stop feeding a food with high phosphate content & upgrade my filtration. By then, I had a Classic Aqua Flow sponge attatched to the inlet tube, and my over-feeding had choked-it-up to the point the canister's pump suction was collapsing it. The main thing is: I had the remove some fish, and I didn't want to lose them, so I performed a crash-restart on my 20. 

How? Replacing the sponge on the canister inlet, I attached it in-place of my Aqua Clear-50's inlet strainer [via a short piece of 5/8"I.D. clear vinyl hose], filled the tank with half of the water from the 40 during the next water-change, and hung the Aqua Clear 50... that saw recent use eslewhere... on the back, filled as before:

(Bottom-to-top): 

1/3-piece trimmed-off a Large 2-stage floss piece for a Tetra Whisper filter

The a knee-high stocking filled to fit the cavity w/the bio-media I mentioned

Another knee-high filled likewise with activated carbon, and another on top filled with zeolyte crystals. 

After adding my four BPs, I added a whole bottle of Tetra SafeStart... And waited, while the filter ran. A week later, I did a 80-90% water-change & added proper measures of API's Stress Coat and Stress Zyme. The result [ever-since]: Water so crystal-clear, even I'm amazed! I maintain the filtration & water weekly... Just like my 40... cleaning the sponge only every two weeks, opposite of the week when I vacuum the gravel, and I've had not an issue since. 

 

Soor if this comes late or is lengthy... but I felt it was best to share on this subject, considering the success I had that relates to one of the responses. 

 

Thank-you.

 

 

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